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Expectation alone triggers the same neural circuits and chemicals as real drugs.<BR/><BR/>"It all boils down to expectation. If you expect pain to diminish, the brain releases natural painkillers. If you expect pain to get worse, the brain shuts off the processes that provide pain relief. Somehow, anticipation trips the same neural wires as actual treatment does.<BR/><BR/>Scientists are using imaging techniques to probe brains on placebos and watch the placebo effect in real time. Such studies show, for example, that the pleasure chemical dopamine and the brain’s natural painkillers, opioids, work oppositely depending on whether people expect pain to get better or worse. Other research shows that placebos can reduce anxiety."<BR/><BR/><BR/>C. Placebos: some background info<BR/><BR/> http://www.cerebromente.org.br/n09/mente/pavlov_i.htm<BR/> http://www.cerebromente.org.br/n09/mente/placebo1_i.htm<BR/> http://thjuland.tripod.com/placebos.html <BR/><BR/>The concept of a placebo comes from medieval times, when professional mourners were paid to stay by the bedside of. deceased person, reciting a psalm beginning "Placebo Domino..." or "I shall please the Lord." "Placebo" gradually became the word used for the paid mourner, whose grief was, in fact, false. <BR/><BR/><BR/>D. Life's Manifest<BR/><BR/>http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/112.page#578<BR/><BR/>Genes are the primal, 1st stratum, Earth's organism and genomes are 2nd stratum organisms,<BR/>multigenes consisting of cooperative communes of their member genes. <BR/><BR/>Life is a real virtual affair that pops in and out of existence in its matrix, which is the energy constrained in Earth's biosphere. <BR/><BR/><BR/>E. On Science and Religion<BR/><BR/>"Evolutionary Biology Of Culture And Religion"<BR/>http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/20/122.page#492<BR/><BR/>The concept “God” is a human virtual reality artifact, experienced only through sensory stimuli. Preoccupation with god-religious matters within a scientific frameworks contributes to corrosion and corruption of science and scientism by manifesting or implying acceptance of virtual reality as reality. <BR/><BR/>Everything is discussable scientifically. No limit. Including virtual matters and affairs. But for a scientific discussion the framework must be clearly defined. The totality of subjects that come under the classification "virtual" are not an exception. You can include in the discussion Pavlov and the modes and manners of exploiting virtuality in any area and towards any end.<BR/><BR/><BR/>F. So why Pavlov smiled in 2008?<BR/><BR/>Pavlov demonstrated effecting placebo phenomena in multicelled organisms by manipulation of their drives-reactions. Now placebo and imagination phenomena are demonstrated also in the smaller organisms, in the genes and genomes of multicelled organisms, in our primal first stratum and 2nd stratum base organisms. A very good reason to smile.<BR/><BR/>Now an interesting chain is exposed to our view, the Genes-Virtual Reality Chain, a most intriguing cultural evolution chain extending from the genesis of our genes to nowadays, throughout life, a virtual reality existence, and by virtual reality phenomena, exploitations and manipulations. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Dov Henis<BR/><BR/>(Comments From The 22nd Century)<BR/> http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-P81pQcU1dLBbHgtjQjxG_Q--?cq=1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563068268982660612.post-1351565580131695602008-10-03T08:48:00.000-07:002008-10-03T08:48:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.MissPrissy93https://www.blogger.com/profile/11344983899730297196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563068268982660612.post-18702383504100917442008-08-04T01:03:00.000-07:002008-08-04T01:03:00.000-07:002008 Updated Life Definition:Scientifically, not t...2008 Updated Life Definition:<BR/><BR/>Scientifically, not technically<BR/><BR/>Tomorrow's comprehension of life and its evolution <BR/><BR/>Intriguing Darwinian implications <BR/><BR/>Intriguing technological developments potential <BR/><BR/>Look at these life definitions, reflect about their implications... <BR/><BR/>----------------------------------- <BR/><BR/>Comprehensive Definitions Of Earth Life, Earth Organism, Gene, Genome And Cellular Organisms. <BR/><BR/>Earth Life: 1. a format of temporarily constrained energy, retained in temporary constrained genetic energy packages in forms of genes, genomes and organisms 2. a real virtual affair that pops in and out of existence in its matrix, which is the energy constrained in Earth's biosphere. <BR/><BR/>Earth organism: a temporary self-replicable constrained-energy genetic system that supports and maintains Earth's biosphere by maintenance of genes. <BR/><BR/>Gene: a primal Earth's organism. <BR/><BR/>Genome: a multigenes organism consisting of a cooperative commune of its member genes. <BR/><BR/>Cellular organisms: mono- or multi-celled earth organisms. <BR/><BR/>-----------------------------------<BR/><BR/>Nature, Origin And Function Of Earth Life <BR/><BR/><BR/>Nature of Earth life: a replicating construction temporarily constraining and maintaining energy. <BR/><BR/>Origin of Earth life: serendipitous energy-induced formation of Earth's primal organisms, individual independent genes. <BR/><BR/>Nature of Earth's organisms: temporary self-replicable constrained-energy genetic systems that support and maintain Earth's biosphere by maintenance of genes. <BR/><BR/>Function of Earth life: uphold and maintain as much constrained energy as possible by upholding and maintaining Earth's biosphere. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Dov Henis<BR/><BR/>http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-P81pQcU1dLBbHgtjQjxG_Q--?cq=1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563068268982660612.post-86226555446966692892006-11-12T08:31:00.000-08:002006-11-12T08:31:00.000-08:00@raindrop: Good questions. There is no reason th...@raindrop: Good questions. There is no reason that life should be C-based or water-based except that life as we know it has evolved around what is available on Earth. In fact, that is why a more rigorous defn of life is needed for these space probes. They try to find "signs" of life which basically end up being metabolism, organization, and genetic hereditory matter even those the chemical components of these various processes could be vastly different from how we see it on Earth.<br /><br />@mediocretes: The question you have is philosophical, but the scientific definition of life has to be established before one can go in and start looking at what keeps life going and how it could have evolved from non-living matter. <br /><br />To keep it in perspective, in the 19th centuru, no one could have a single definition of water - what with its varied properties - solvent, thirst quencher, wetability, etc., there was not a single definition of water that satisfied one and all until they came to know the chemical constituents of water and H2O satisfied one and all. Maybe, what we need to understand about life is the basic elements of life rather than the actual properties life exhibits....Born a Libranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14179849395244410265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563068268982660612.post-44311426347947636322006-11-11T20:55:00.000-08:002006-11-11T20:55:00.000-08:00Are there any good arguments for why life (extra t...Are there any good arguments for why life (extra terrestrial) should be carbon based, and not silicon based? I would also imagine that it's easiest for living organisms (in their non-dormant form) to be liquid based. Allows for more complexity and easier metabolism. Any arguments for why that liquid is more likely to be water, than, say methanol? Apart from the fact that water is a 'universal' solvent.Raindrophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09868858360846629731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563068268982660612.post-6256588711648415172006-11-06T12:52:00.000-08:002006-11-06T12:52:00.000-08:00@ BaL - yes, I agree. So far, we have not added t...@ BaL - yes, I agree. So far, we have not added the ability to mutate and evolve in an artificailly generated cell. But there are several groups activiely trying. So the whole point is if we do succeed, at what point do we say,that this is live?Sakshihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15254710232597224075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563068268982660612.post-66905224218028453802006-11-06T08:05:00.000-08:002006-11-06T08:05:00.000-08:00@sakshi: The article you pointed to made an inter...@sakshi: The article you pointed to made an interesting read. I dont think they are striking at the origin of life problem because they are using modern DNA, proteins, et. al. to make the synthetic cell. The next question is whether they are creating life - thats a little more difficult to define. I would like to see it reproduce and evolve and then see everything that it has in it before I have to judge that. Life as we know it lies in complexity - the whole has to be greater than the parts and nothing they have built so far has that characteristic.Born a Libranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14179849395244410265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563068268982660612.post-10037432028078201662006-11-06T06:54:00.000-08:002006-11-06T06:54:00.000-08:00Prashanth beat me to asking the question - where d...Prashanth beat me to asking the question - where do you draw the line for calling something alive? <br />On a side note,this is a good article to read.<br />http://www.the-scientist.com/article/display/18854/<br />It talks about generating the artificial cell. Infact, that entire month's issue was dedicated to such articles.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563068268982660612.post-54846545379590937242006-11-05T12:27:00.000-08:002006-11-05T12:27:00.000-08:00I have come across similar debates myself... but i...I have come across similar debates myself... but in the context of genetic algorithms and stuff (where the answer is simply that they do not undergo metabolism)... <br /><br />My reply - If one can clone Dolly and Dolly is considered to be alive, then I don't see why a robot with all the above characteristics can not be considered alive... However, the robot has to be sufficiently complex to not be the sum of it's parts alone. On going through the algebraic information theoretic framework of arganization (not that I understood most of it), it is just a wee bit more complicated than robots as we know it (even if it is solar empowered, can reproduce, and can evolve).Born a Libranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14179849395244410265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563068268982660612.post-73224582322581035712006-11-05T09:43:00.000-08:002006-11-05T09:43:00.000-08:00Its funny, but I've come across the same debate in...Its funny, but I've come across the same debate in the context of artificial intelligence: both in real life (I've done a little work in AI) and in fiction (I'm a huuuuuge scifi reader).<br /><br />Here's the thing: if you create a robot that can learn (grow), see, hear, think, talk and manage, then is it alive? To extend to the criteria on this post, lets say the robot runs on solar energy, and is capable of creating more robots like itself. In a crude sense, it can metabolize, is organized, can reproduce, and can grow. So, is it alive?<br /><br />I can talk on this subject for hours... but I'll stop now :)Prashanthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03605930088706185534noreply@blogger.com